What Can Social Science Tell Us?

by John Sides on January 10, 2008 · 10 comments

in Other social science

Robin Hanson says that only recently did he come to believe that social scientists knew stuff. He argues that skepticism about social science may arise because social scientists talk dumber than they are:

I think is that most public talk by social experts reflects little social science. That is, what social experts say in legal or congressional testimony, or in newspapers or magazines, mostly reflects what they and we want and expect to hear, instead of what expert evidence reveals.

Andrew Gelman responds, with many interesting observations:

Compare to physical and biological sciences and engineering. Research in these areas has given us H-bombs, chemical fertilizers, laptop computers, vaccinations, ziplock bags, etc. etc. And social science has given us . . . what? An unbiased estimate of the incumbency advantage? The discovery of “nonattitudes”? A clever way of auctioning radio frequencies? The discovery that sumo wrestlers cheat? Not much “news you can use,” I’d say.
Social science is important, though. It gives us ways of looking at the world…But, to be sure, “ways of looking at the world” is pretty weak. The dollar auction is an impressive demo and the median voter theorem is cool, but it’s not like the hard sciences where, for example, you can point to a cloned sheep and say “hey, we did that!”.
Rather than comparing social science to physics, chemistry, biology, and engineering, a more useful comparison might be to history…History has value in itself—interesting stories—and helps us understand our world, although not always in a direct way. Once people start trying to organize their historical knowledge, this leads into political science…Similarly, social psychology organizes what would otherwise be episodes of personal stories of social interaction, economics organizes what would otherwise be anecdotes of business, etc.

Some initial thoughts:

1) I see Robin’s point. There are times when I am talking to reporters and the answer to their question is “It’s too early to tell” or “There’s no evidence to support that” or “The thing you care about is probably not important” or “The research suggests a more complicated story.” That happens a lot when I get calls about the campaign. A reporter wants to know, as one did a couple weeks ago, whether Oprah Winfrey’s appearances with Obama helped his standing. I told her, “It’s too early to tell.” (Like a good social scientist, I wanted to see some data first.) But she pressed, framing things in hypothetical terms (“Could there be advantages to these rallies?). And so I verbalized a thought process vaguely informed by research on primary elections: loosely speaking, visibility helps create viability and the rallies may have provided Obama more positive visibility with voters, in the media, etc.. And that was enough to give her a quote or two to run with a tenuous weaselly-worded story that suggested that the rallies were an important phenomenon. I told her something closer to what she wanted to hear, just as Robin suggests social scientists sometimes do. I should have said, “We can’t know, and here’s why” and left it at that.

2) Obviously, I think that social scientists know stuff. This blog is dedicated to that proposition. (And to Lee’s cats.) I think Andrew puts it pretty well: social science helps organize discrete pieces of data, historical and otherwise. (Not that historians would want their research described as “discrete,” of course. A friend who has a history Ph.D. once said this to me: “What does poli sci teach us, besides democracies don’t invade each other and nobody knows why.”) I might take it one step further: it’s not that social science “organizes,” it’s that it systematizes. Simply put, it seeks general logic(s) to human behavior. And, in fact, it’s pretty successful in doing so, at least in some cases. Forecasting models of presidential elections are pretty accurate, and what seems less “systematic” than the hurly-burly of election campaigns?

3) Andrew also talks about “news you can use.” I do think social scientists have something “useful” to offer, even if we fail to communicate that well. At least among my own students, I find that many really want to understand human behavior. I just taught a course on “the political psychology of prejudice and intergroup conflict,” in which we discussed not only the extreme cases, such as genocide, but also the mundane ways in which we engage in stereotyping and milder forms of prejudicial behavior. I emphasized how cognitive and social psychological theories could help them understand their own behavior and the world around them. They analyzed a news article of their choosing for its implicit stereotypical content, and the vast majority of papers were good to excellent. When we talked about social influence, Milgram, the Stanford Prison Experiment, Abu Ghraib, etc., a student beat me to the punch by noting that the same psychological processes lead to hazing rituals.

All that is to say, while average people may not be so self-reflexive as to continually analyze their own behavior in light of social scientific theories, many do want to know how people really think and act and why they do so. Such topics are much closer to our daily lives than string theory or even Ziploc bags. In this way, social scientists have a tremendous advantage, one that Blink and Freakonomics and similar books have capitalized on.

But communicating the knowledge that we have remains a significant challenge. I would love to hear your thoughts in the comments.

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Scott McClurg January 10, 2008 at 11:26 pm

I have a million thoughts on this subject, but let me offer two simple explanations for why social scientists aren’t seen as producing useful public knowledge:

1. Because much of what we study can be seen in everyday life, non-social scientists have some claim to knowledge that simply doesn’t exist in the “hard ” sciences. For that matter, that claim doesn’t even really exist in many liscened professions such as medicine and business. This creates challenges for us to convince folks we *know* useful things. For example, I can’t tell you how often I’m asked “who will win…” and then told why I’m wrong.

2. Human and social behavior is inherently noisier than physical behavior, which makes it less tractable to study. Moreover, the dynamic nature of social systems means that whatever we *do* pin down is subject to change.

I’d go so far as to say that these are some of the reasons we have such wide-ranging epistemologies in the social sciences (how else could positivism and interpretivism co-exist)?

Maybe we need a political-science-anomics book?

Kevin January 11, 2008 at 12:10 am

I think Kathleen Hall Jamieson & Co.’s “Everything you think you know about Politics … and Why You’re Wrong” comes about as close to a “Political-science-anomics” book as we currently have, at least in terms of its popular accessibility and contra-conventional-wisdom orientation. (http://www.amazon.com/Everything-Think-About-Politics-Youre/dp/0465036279)

Are there other books along this line that others are aware of?

Robin Hanson January 11, 2008 at 8:58 am

Hi John, nice to meet another social scientist who knows we know stuff. :)

Jonathan Taylor January 11, 2008 at 11:30 am

So, taking Kevin’s bait, what are the: a) counterintuitive, b) empirically verified, and c) broadly relevant Greatest Hits of Social Science?

Paul Samuelson is alleged to have pondered long and hard before answering for economics, “the theory of comparative advantage.” (I don’t believe the “pondered long & hard” bit and agree with Samuelson. Comparative advantage is an obvious answer. Lots of GDP was produced from a surprising idea).

Speaking further for economics I might add the Coase Theorem and its application to, say, tort law and tradable permits, but I would guess not much News has been generated by that insight (in terms of GDP, at least).

Then there’s the Transportation Administration employee who claims to be the world’s most valuable economist because he upped the estimates on human life, thereby flipping the cost-benefit conclusion for rumble strips, lane reflectors, etc. [But I digress to discuss engineering marvels not scientific revolutions. ;-) ]

What goes on the list for Political Science? Sociology? Anthropology? Psychology?

What is the News the Layperson Has Used?

Matthew January 11, 2008 at 12:24 pm

Great answer, Jonathan. And big gauntlet!

Without claiming to pick up the gauntlet (ufa, it’s heavy!), lemme try something out on you: perhaps political science, or sociology, or anthropology, don’t really have a *single* contribution on offer, but rather, help us by systematizing and providing a method for comparison across inherently chaotic systems.

Some might try to give you a single response for polisci, but I wouldn’t buy any single answer: new instlism, or the median voter theory, or even Duverger’s law are all relatively minor contributions in comparison to comparative advantage. But if you think back on Machiavelli, or Tocqueville, or even more recent classics like Dahl or Lijphart, they offer a very helpful way of thinking about — respectively — strategic options, the dynamic evolution of a particular brand of democratic politics, and how to conceptualize and compare democracies.

Granted, they won’t solve any great existential conundrums (nor do they claim to), but they have become classics because they shape the way we think about societies and the humans within them.

Jonathan Taylor January 11, 2008 at 1:40 pm

I see we’re going to have to tighten the contest rules: No sidestepping the gauntlet.

Show me the Money!

I’m all for “helpful ways of thinking.” They matter. The question is: What do they get humankind? Pablo Picasso gave us counterintuitive, empirically tested “helpful ways of thinking” about the shape of a face. What of the broad relevance–the Ooomph for humankind? Would the people of Africa vote Picasso over the Germ Theory of Disease? What about Machiavelli or Tocqueville or Dahl or Lijphart?

At one level, this is all fodder for late-night, tequila-addled dorm discussion: Which is better Theory of Comparative Advantage or Germ Theory of Disease? (Oy veh.)

And yet…humankind could Use some News about now. News it can use.

Matthew January 11, 2008 at 2:50 pm

Fair ‘nuf, Jonathan. You want deep meaning, and I gave you fluff. But isn’t that the point?

Sure, occasionally the world is about to be invaded by aliens who will agree not to blow us up in exchange for the three most important intellectual contributions we have to offer the universe. But most of the time, the aliens aren’t there (and do you think really think comparative advantage would make the list, anyhow?).

My point is that the social sciences have less concrete oomph to offer than physics or medicine, most of the time. But that relative lack of heft is not to say that the social sciences don’t have practical implications: witness the application of Huntington’s theories of development as order in Latin America in the 1960s, theories of efficient markets, or even the rebuttals of these ideas. All had an important effect on the way people thought about important issues of the day.

Arguments such as these thus were influential (if not always helpful), and as a result, it’s important to have some method — or at least consensus — governing the appropriate way to generate, test, and publicize such findings.

Hence the unfortunate term “social *science*”, which leads to all sorts of misleading comparisons with the “hard” sciences, and even leads some social scientists to attempt to emulate the hard sciences with covering law-type propositions.

But if we take a softer version of “science” and consider it a way of rigorously positing hypotheses — however narrow — there seems to be a lot to gain from social “science” that is neither “art” à la Picasso, nor “science” à la Newtonian physics.

I hope that’s not sidestepping, but I also hope that’s not belittling for the social scientists among us.

Kevin January 11, 2008 at 3:10 pm

Part of the problem, it seems to me, of identifying “Political Science’s Greatest Hits” is that very often political science seems less a discipline in and of itself but rather the application of theories and tools from a variety of other fields to the subject of government. For instance, I would think that Mancur Olson’s “Logic of Collective Action” would have to go on the greatest hits list, but is that book properly considered economics or political science? The same may be said of Bob Putnam’s social capital thesis and sociology or of John Zaller’s Receive-Accept-Sample model of political information processing and psychology. Perhaps the proper question is not “What is the best that political science has to offer?”, but more basically, “What is political science?”

Matthew January 11, 2008 at 3:30 pm

If politics is “who gets what, when and how” (Lasswell), then a big tent definition of political science could argue that it is simply the study of how, when, and why who gets what, when and how (it sounds like a comedy routine, doesn’t it?).

All kidding aside, that would allow for a big tent, multi-method, cross-disciplinary field of political science, much as the study of public policy has been populated by everyone from statisticians to agronomists. The more the merrier, I say, provided there’s some general consensus about the methods for ascertaining what we know and how we know it.

Joe January 12, 2008 at 10:45 am

As Kevin mentioned, Olson’s work is hugely important and nonintuitive. I think there are some very important findings to emerge out of comparative politics, particularly relating to the mechanics of electoral systems and their impact of party and voter behvior–Duverger’s Law, being one among many.

Although, I must say, in my only American Politics graduate course, we seemed to have left off with a very unsatisfying picture of why people vote. It was a running joke throughout graduate school that the omitted and slippery variable missing from our models was the “duty” term.

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