Political Science and Gay Marriage in New York

by John Sides on June 27, 2011 · 5 comments

in Legislative Politics

A Monkey Cage reader, Jeff, emailed me and wrote:

Observation: while too much press coverage ignores poli sci insights and exaggerates the significance of winning the daily news cycle, role of campaigns, etc., I think a lot of non poli sci people have taken to over-compensating and making stronger claims on behalf of the poli sci than I think you guys make—i.e., they deny Obama any agency and act like the ever-changing US (demographically, technologically, etc.) acts in a deterministic manner. I think it would be useful for one of you guys to write something about cautionary misuses of poli sci models and lessons.

I’ll speak to this by drawing on the New York State Senate’s decision to legalize gay marriage.

I look at the politics of gay marriage and see a lot of broader structure at work, including demographic change.  It is not surprising that we are seeing more liberal policies regarding gay marriage.  As public opinion becomes more liberal, public policies also tend to become more liberal.  Certainly public opinion on gay marriage is trending in that direction.  And it is not surprising that we would see this change happen in New York.  States with more liberal publics tend to have more liberal policies.  Here’s one recent poll on gay marriage from NY.

I look at the vote itself and see political science models confirmed.  The largely partisan 33-29 could reflect that fact that supporters and opponents simply had different opinions about gay marriage.  Personal political ideologies can affect roll call voting.  And state legislators in NY —both Democrats and Republicans—are some of the most liberal in the country.  (In the paper at that link, see Figures 6 and Table 2.)

The vote could reflect the fact that representatives often vote in line with their constituents, and clearly areas within New York State vary enough in their support of gay marriage to expect a divided vote.  Moreover, there were specific legislators for whom constituent opinion appeared consequential.  According to the New York Times, Democratic Senator Joseph Addabbo, who previously voted against gay marriage, was flooded with postcards supporting it, and that appeared to be enough for him to support this bill.  The same thing happened to Republican Senator James Alesi.

The vote could reflect the influence of parties on voting behavior.  According to the Times, Democratic Senator Shirley Huntley, who also voted against gay marriage in 2009, supported this bill out of “personal loyalty” to the Democratic majority leader and her fellow Democrats.  What about the weaker influence on the Republican side?  Parties are strongest when their members are unified.  When their members are divided, they will often fail to empower party leaders.  The NYT reports that Senate Republicans could not reach a consensus and that the Republican leader, Dean Skelos, did not try to organize a united front.  He said: “My management style is that I let my members lead.”

The vote also reflected the rules of the NY Senate.  Legislative rules—e.g., regarding supermajorities and veto points—are crucialMatt Yglesias:

Suppose that the New York State Senate operated according to the rules of the United States Senate and a bill failed unless it secured a 60 percent supermajority. What would people be saying about Andrew Cuomo now?

It is hard to know which of those factors was paramount, but each of them is well-grounded in political science.

Where does political science come up short?  Jeff’s point about “agency” gets at one.  According to the NYT account linked above, Cuomo’s efforts were crucial, in particular for answering this important question: Why was gay marriage passed now, and not in 2009?  The NYT piece linked above says, among other things, that Cuomo was being pressured by his girlfriend and wanted to live up to the legacy of his father by doing something “at the heart of leadership and progressive government.”  This helped put gay marriage on his agenda.  The NYT also describes how Cuomo centralized the lobbying effort under his own c0ntrol and encouraged gay rights organizations to work under a common umbrella.  Political science is not as good at identifying the specific effects of executive leadership and certainly we do not know much about what kinds of leadership—centralized, decentralized, etc.—are most effective.

Ultimately, we can’t parse out the contributions of each of these factors to the NY decision.  That doesn’t mean we should say “well, probably they all matter.”  Ultimately, we should want to say how much each factor matters.  My problem with presidentialism—the attribution of all political outcomes to presidential action, inaction, personality, leadership, etc.—is that it simply writes off many of these factors in the service of a good narrative focused on a compelling individual leader.  That is why I often push back against such narratives.  Moreover, counterfactuals that start “If only Obama had done X…” often have an underpants gnome quality:

1) Obama does something.

2) ?

3) Single-payer health care!  Or whatever.

Jeff is right: executive leadership can be consequential, as it seems to have been before the NY gay marriage vote.  But persuasive arguments about that second step are few and far between.

{ 5 comments }

Chris June 27, 2011 at 10:55 am

One of the remarkable features of the NY vote, is that the majority party unambiguously got rolled in the NY Senate.

Take that, Cox and McCubbins!

Paul M June 27, 2011 at 11:05 am

John, isn’t a shout-out to Barry Burden’s The Personal Roots of Representation 9http://press.princeton.edu/titles/8567.html) also in order given Carl Kruger (and presumably others’) shift? http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/06/democracy-and-gay-marriage/241065/

philosophical-ron June 27, 2011 at 2:19 pm

For an interesting take on the responsibility of each human being for the creation and distribution of “politics,” in the context of a comprehensive philosophy of history which takes the goal of telling the story of _all_ human beings at all times, may I immodestly suggest the long article at my website. Truth-seekers in Manila, Davao, Hanoi, Pehsawar, Colombo, Addis Ababa, Nairobi, Tangier, Cairo and many other places are on top of it!

Tobin Grant June 27, 2011 at 2:27 pm

Two facts that we don’t know:

1. In previous years, the NY Senate was clearly going to vote it down. And several members changed positions. In this case, the deciding votes came after further exemptions. The end result is that policy ended up at the median. Or not.

2. There were also stiff negotiations for tax cuts and rent control. We don’t know what logrolling may have been done.

PC in NYC June 27, 2011 at 2:50 pm

“Why was gay marriage passed now, and not in 2009?”

A couple key differences in context:

1) In 2009, the Senate was controlled by a narrow, divided, and poorly organized Democratic majority. This empowered renegade Democrats (i.e., the ‘Three Amigos’) to use their leverage as potential swing votes for their own personal benefit. They were perfectly happy to hold marriage equality hostage to their own ambitions (indeed, it was a priority of Sen. Diaz, one of the ‘Amigos’, to prevent a vote). Other swing Dems (Addabbo, Huntley) had little incentive to side with their party’s ineffective leadership. Republicans, meanwhile, had no incentive to vote with the Democrats, particularly on a divisive issue that could complicate their own hopes of retaking the chamber. When the vote came, it foundered on these political considerations (as Sen. Alessi has said, in explaining his own 2009 vote).

2) Governor Paterson, while well-meaning, was unpopular and entirely ineffective. There was no incentive for on-the-fence Dems to side with him, much less Republicans.

The fact that the polls on this issue have shifted since 2009 was necessary to change the outcome, but not sufficient. This year, the GOP is in control of the Senate, which means that when marriage came to the floor, it was at the Republicans’ own pace and after considerable deal-making on other issues. Quite likely, the GOP Senators’ best guess was that bringing the bill to the floor was less likely to damage their prospects of keeping control of the Senate than denying a vote would have been – in other words, that their marginal seats were more vulnerable to a challenge from marriage equality supporters than to a challenge from conservatives. But that’s just my guess.

I know people will be looking to the 2012 results to test this calculation. Keep in mind, though, that the Republicans are fairly likely to lose control of the Senate in any case, thanks to redistricting and the general weight of NYS demographics.

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